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Post by casper on Nov 3, 2012 21:56:23 GMT -5
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Post by skullcandy1993 on Nov 4, 2012 4:36:03 GMT -5
i feel like there isn't a whole lot of love for tippmanns because when you take an A5 or an X7 out of the box its a nice all around marker, you have to mod it for it to be applicable to a sniper's style of play. A Tiberius on the other hand is already set up for a sniper's style of play right out of the box, FS ready and mag fed, and a sight mounted.
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Post by Lt.Col.Vortex on Nov 4, 2012 23:00:55 GMT -5
Basically, to each his own. When people say sniper (in reference to paintball) they think Tiberius. Thats just what seams to work. Dont try to make a Tipy do what a Tiberius does and visa versa. The T guns where built around FS rounds and FS is what 'snipers' sue today. I'm still of the mentality of 'pump snipers'. I like my round paint (mainly because I can afford it) and I like my pumps. Just make it work with what you like and enjoy the life of a sniper. A accurate and stealthy shot is still an accurate and stealthy shot, it doesn't matter if your shooting a Tipy or a Tiber, FS or rounds. Enjoy the moment or the confused look on your targets face  |
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Post by joshsmithers on Nov 5, 2012 12:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by casper on Nov 5, 2012 13:22:43 GMT -5
Cheap reliable and accurate haha!!The traccer will give you a fs platform and a open or stock class pump.
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Post by joshsmithers on Nov 5, 2012 22:54:46 GMT -5
I've yet to fire a FS out of my trracer. I might try it out next weekend at Fulda.
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Post by c0axial on Nov 19, 2012 17:44:54 GMT -5
LOL |
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Post by freeenterprise on Jan 10, 2013 14:46:59 GMT -5
When I think "sniper" I think of the guy that can hit others at ranges that "regular" players don't even attempt, or even consider "in range". I don't think one shot one kill... We shoot paintballs, and they just aren't as accurate as a real bullets. But, I use an A-5, and I get great consistency with it. Here is an example of a barrel test I did last year. I am using Co2, and a remote line, only "upgrades" were to polish the internals, and switch to silicone o-rings. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EJNg3fyjOEIn that video consecutive shots are clearly shown on the chrono. And there are no 40 fps differences shot to shot... In fact, if you have a Tippmann shooting 40fps between shots, clean your powertube as it is dirty and not operating correctly. Here are the shots in that video. 278, 274, 277, 269, 282, 276, 271,271, 272, 265, 271, 269, 270, 272, 271, 270, 267, 268, 267, 269, 276. ALL of which are plenty consistent enough for long range shooting. Oh, and there is no regulator on that marker either... I shoot long range at just about every event I run. And I get eliminations at long range as well, hitting guys where I am aiming, but I use regular paint (I find GOOD paint, which is not easy...) and it may take me a bunch of shots to get someone, but I do it with such consistency that anyone watching my channel can see it is possible. Here is some footage including a super long range elimination from my last event. In a blizzard... www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5-7aCPEu5k |
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Post by chicago on Jan 10, 2013 17:02:38 GMT -5
You weren't kidding great video!
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Post by ruraldawgs on Jan 10, 2013 19:29:22 GMT -5
I have looked at this video numerous times (54 second spot) and I am skeptical that it was a 300 ft shot. Even on a good day I haven't ever seen a marker shoot the length of a football field. Is there something Im missing here in a wooded environment, that kind of length is possible ? The brush was very heavy for that shot.
Someone enlighten me to this claim.
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Post by chicago on Jan 11, 2013 10:16:59 GMT -5
It's simple math...at 300 fps, the shot takes less than a second to get there. So beyond all the brush which I agree make these shots almost unbelievable (but, you can still get a "lucky" shot); but defying the speed that the paintball (first strikes don't come in "red") is traveling at adds to the skeptic in me.
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Post by chicago on Jan 13, 2013 11:26:25 GMT -5
 Here goes: Tippmanns aren't sniper guns; they are just entry class paintball markers. You can pretend all you want. But, "you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear." Hey hack those tippmanns up, go for it; but don't keep asking the same question, the answers aren't going to change. If that's what floats your boat go for it. It's a game, Who knows, you may change the mind of every advanced sniper here. Keep hammering away at us. But, you've got to understand one thing, many of us can't change our minds any more cause we don't have a brain to change! That's why there are so many great snipers here! They are focused on only one thing and its not a guinea pig! It's like the old paintball joke. "Dad, can I have five bucks to buy a guinea pig? No son, here's ten find yourself an nice Canadian whore!" |
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Post by avengingangel on Jan 14, 2013 10:32:28 GMT -5
Well said my lord and master.
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Post by freeenterprise on Jan 14, 2013 11:31:56 GMT -5
It always makes me laugh when guys say you can't shoot 300+ feet with regular paint and a backspin system out of a Tippmann A-5... I have TONS of video showing it. Here is a game at Paintball Junkeez this summer where I was shooting 300+ feet. Even though I had super old bad paint you can clearly see the paint hitting that bunker so far away, and watch those players react. One of them even commented in the comments on youtube... www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE17Zw1Ai-wMy driveway is a quarter of a mile long, and I have done quite a few videos showing 300+ foot shots with an Apex and regular paint at normal playing speeds... I measured this with a tape measure so I know that first target is at 350 feet away... www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CorD-WygPEAnd another one I made showing 350 foot shots... You can see that most of them land at 325-330 feet, and that is UP hill, shooting only 263fps. I know, I know. "but it won't break"... Just watch the video, all the paint on the ground broke... www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Kt4_cIHe8I get long range kills all the time, you can see them on my channel. I have well over 100 videos... And in MANY of them I am getting super long range shots with regular paint. Like this video at 1:30. www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_a_uCF9fPM&list=UUrGDQFmBG2zfDogkOhnKmXA&index=53It is one of the reasons I invented my ZoomCam because I was tired of posting how I was getting long range kills, and people telling me I didn't know what I was talking about... When I SAW it happen game after game... Trails of Doom is my own private field in my backyard, and I have taken a range finder out there and checked the distances of some of my favorite places to long range shoot. AND I have my own shooting range, that goes out to 375 feet... You can see it in these videos, but I was only using 160 feet as my longest shots. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBgoOp47S9sWith good paint, it is insane... I was using old leftover paint that I didn't like, as I am a cheapskate, and keep the good stuff for games... Here is a recent video where I actually used some GOOD paint for a shooting demo. Can you put ball on ball at 80 feet with your marker?... I can. How about a headshot with ONE shot at 100 feet. Again, this was my good paint, that I rarely "waste" in my testing videos, as I hate using good paint for a boring test video... So I wasted a pod just to prove the ability of an Apex equipped Tippmann A-5. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3ipQ828q0You are welcome to use whatever makes you happy on the field, but don't insult the A-5, as it does the job just fine. |
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Post by chicago on Jan 14, 2013 11:47:28 GMT -5
Only watched the first four video. That's not paintball sniper. When we shot that far out rounds don't fly wildly around the target, they hit in a 2-3 inch patter (referencing first youtube video). The youtube video, we don't angle the markers up that high and fire many shots (second and third vids) to hit our targets. Snipers strive for one shot. I'm not going to bother going on.
And, I give up responding to the same question: Why is there more on Tippmann Sniping. Answer they aren't as accurate and you are still firing volume not accuracy! I've never said you can't have fun with an A5 and a spin thingie.
And, I'm not trying to be insulting anyone. I've admitted that the A-5 can be fun and get the job done; but that is not what you asked. Enough said!
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Post by ruraldawgs on Jan 14, 2013 11:52:27 GMT -5
I run an A5 when I play hopper (up to now, getting my T9.1 together for the season). I love mine as well and its chrono at 270 right now. I run HPA, a Lapco 686 STR8shot. Today after school is out, Im going over to the local HS in the later evening. I certainly dont want to be busted on a the HS football field with a marker right now. I have a fresh box of premium and will shoot the football field. I will report my findings. On second thought I am going to wait for the weekend when no students are on the HS campus.
Im not saying you DONT get what your saying you get. Im just saying I have NEVER observed what you are reporting.
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Post by freeenterprise on Jan 14, 2013 12:00:58 GMT -5
Watch the last video if you want to see accuracy. I don't usually use good paint in shooting target videos, but that last one I did... That is the paint I was using in my last few events. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3ipQ828q0The point I am making is this. YOUR marker may shoot a certain way, and YOU are used to that. My marker also shoots a certain way, and with good paint I can get guys out at 300+ feet with only a few shots. Which is plenty good enough for me at my price point. My entire set up was less than $120... (I bought it used) And the good paint I was using cost $35 a case... So if I can hit a target at 350 feet with only TWO shots (as seen in the video above), that is clearly "sniper" ability. Sure I point the marker up, but I HIT the target, and was shooting uphill. And that is the point... So yeah, a person could use a Tippmann A-5 and hit players at 300+ feet away. Which most would consider a "sniper" shot. The gun doesn't make the sniper. Put the best real sniper gun in the hands of a novice, and put a .22 in the hands of a sniper. The sniper will outshoot the novice all day long... It comes back to shooting skill, and knowing your weapon. The Tippmann does what I want, and I get long range kills with it. With no add ons or upgrades except an Apex barrel. (I'm using a J&J with a tape mod currently)  |
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Post by freeenterprise on Jan 14, 2013 12:02:52 GMT -5
You will only be able to shoot about 270 with that barrel...
I've tried all kinds of regular barrels, and the only way to get over 300 feet while shooting a safe speed is with backspin, (apex or flatline).
Don't go to a highschool, bad idea. Just measure it out with a tape measure.
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Post by chicago on Jan 14, 2013 12:35:43 GMT -5
Watch the last video if you want to see accuracy. I don't usually use good paint in shooting target videos, but that last one I did... That is the paint I was using in my last few events. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3ipQ828q0The point I am making is this. YOUR marker may shoot a certain way, and YOU are used to that. My marker also shoots a certain way, and with good paint I can get guys out at 300+ feet with only a few shots. Which is plenty good enough for me at my price point. My entire set up was less than $120... (I bought it used) And the good paint I was using cost $35 a case... So if I can hit a target at 350 feet with only TWO shots (as seen in the video above), that is clearly "sniper" ability. Sure I point the marker up, but I HIT the target, and was shooting uphill. And that is the point... So yeah, a person could use a Tippmann A-5 and hit players at 300+ feet away. Which most would consider a "sniper" shot. The gun doesn't make the sniper. Put the best real sniper gun in the hands of a novice, and put a .22 in the hands of a sniper. The sniper will outshoot the novice all day long... It comes back to shooting skill, and knowing your weapon. The Tippmann does what I want, and I get long range kills with it. With no add ons or upgrades except an Apex barrel. (I'm using a J&J with a tape mod currently) I agree that is really accurate for round paintballs! Again we are onto to different subject and question than "why don't more snipers shoot Tippmanns?" I like the earlier analogy with a real sniper and and .22. Because he wants more accuracy and constantcy; but if necessary he can use a .22 - it just wouldn't be his first choice! And we can't keep switching in this circular argument now to "well, to each his own." Paintball Snipers here on this forum are anwering you, you just aren't listening! And, by the way in my opinion you should never compare a real sniper with a paintball sniper. Now, go ahead, get the last would in... and then go find a Tippmann forum. |
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Post by chicago on Jan 14, 2013 12:47:06 GMT -5
You will only be able to shoot about 270 with that barrel... I've tried all kinds of regular barrels, and the only way to get over 300 feet while shooting a safe speed is with backspin, (apex or flatline). Don't go to a highschool, bad idea. Just measure it out with a tape measure. But I also agree with freeenterprise on this: 270 feet max with roundballs shooting flatlines or backspin from an Apex. It has been measured by many. And please, please, do not take what looks like a gun any where near s school. There are a number of reaons! |
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