why doesnt anyone run tippmann

[snpr13]

It seems tiberius arms is the dominent marker on here. But why no love for tippmanns. I get that the tiberius are milsim and a good marker straight out of the box but tippmann has a great reputation. And they are insanley customizable. Instead of throwing a sight and maybe a barrel and paintjob you can make it a part of you. I love my tippmann

[mercenary]

well...this is a board for snipers.

I would say that tippmann made no gun able to shoot First Strike Rounds is the main issue

[Wolfen]

Well for me personally, i've had quite a bit of experience with Tippmanns and so far i've been really unimpressed with anything they give out. This is the reasons why. first of all apart from the new phenoms (which i ain't played with) they are all insanely inconsistent when it comes to Fps (x7,A5, C98 all varies upto 40 fps from shot to shot). This for me is directly a deal breaker since inconsistency affects accuracy in a big way and i want to know that my shots go where i want them to go. Second their markers are too heavy for my taste, having a lighter marker makes it alot easier to crawl around. Third, i can't play with a marker designed to only be shot from one hand , being able to switch and is so important in paintball. And last but not least like Mercenary said, they ain't built to shoot First strikes which i shoot exclusively when i play sniper. For me a Tippmann is a marker that you can make look like a sniper rifle but you will never have the actual performance of one.

Their plus side is that their super duper durable and will always work. Which makes it a great marker for new players.

Now this is just my opinion, there's a lot of people out there that love their tippmanns and i definitely think they should stick with them. Most important thing is to use a marker that YOU feel comfortable with.

[Lt.Col.Vortex]

A5 sniper here. Actually, my sniper title is barrel and hopper determined

Unless you spend a LOT of time, money and tuning to shoot strait, the Tippmann markers are not that good for snipers (98,A5 and X7....dont know about the SL68.) i love my A5 and will make it do whatever I want, but it will never compare to what every other sniper uses.

Oh and you CAN shoot FS rounds out of the A5...remove the cyclone and breach feed them

[snpr13]

I know of one guy designing a feed system for the FS rounds for the a5. As far as inconsistent that can easily be fixed with a barrel which is always my first upgrade and a regulator which I do because I use hpa. I've shot the Tiberius before and there awesome but cost of paint is outrageous. I'd go broke with as much as I shoot. The guy designing the system for the a5 is going to make it switchable which would be the reason Id do it. On top of the fact that IMO you'll never beat tippmanns Rep because there the most used gun out there. Almost everyone I played with started on a 98 or 98c then upgraded. I plan on upgrading to an automag when I have the extra income

[Wolfen]

Actually you can't fix the inconsistency on the x7,a5,98C because the problem is how the marker is built.

[snpr13]

I've seen them run within 5fps of every shot. And that's stock polished internals a palmer regulator and a good barrel running hpa

[chicago]

In some of our sniper markers, 5 feet per second variance are the max we'd accept. I have markers with good matched barrels and adjusted output pressure regulators that have 1-2 FPS. I've got a new marker today that I'll be testing with a chrono that reportedly has a variance of only 1 foot per second.

I'm not putting you or your tippmann down (in fact I was considering an X7 phenom when the Tacacoma mag kits for first strikes when they first came out - but, about two years later and I still haven't seen glowing reviews or a lot of people running them. I see more on breach loading tippmanns).

You joined a "sniper" forum so don't feel bad if not all your ideas are readily accepted here. There's a lot of knowledge here so, keep an open mind. It's just that on some of this, we've already "been there, done that," and then moved on in the pursuit of perfection.

By all means keep posting up things on your tippmann and your experiences. I learn new stuff every day. Welcome to the forum.

[snpr13]

I've been playing for ten years know and have been on OSOKs board since 2004. Ive seen and done it all with pb. I just can't justify a $500 gun with more money into parts and then the paint cost of it. My wife would shoot me with a real gun lol. I went with the tippmann because I got a great deal and am on a tight budget right now. I'm not saying that tippmanns are the end all be all but cost wise I would choose another marker. I'd go automag or a ccm and I'm probably going to go automag when funds are available. Im not saying ill never go with a fs capable marker. It's a really neat idea. But cost of paint alone will prevent it from being my main or only marker. I go through 2-3 cases of paint a month and I'm running a 5 to 1 ball to kill. Even if your 1 to 1 with the fs rounds I'm it's still costing me half to throw paint. That alone is enough to deter me

[chicago]

Sorry, I was just trying to add some encouragement. Here, I should practice what I preach:



Of course, and maybe unfortunately, I do from time to time think. So, I'm thinking, over 8 years on the On Shoot One Kill forum (which I'm a member too). And, all these years of playing, you ask a question like "why doesn't anyone run tippmann?" Then you aren't the naive newbie here. Were you just looking to cause controversy here!

Sorry, I saw all the comments as to "why not" and didn't want you to get discouraged. My mistake. Won't happen again!

[Wolfen]

Actually you can easily pick up a new t9.1 ranger at 300 dollar or a used one for alot less. As for the cost of first strikes it's absolutely true that they cost much per round, however truth is that i spend ALOT less money on paint when using First strikes then i ever did with normal paintballs, and i used to play with the 1 shot 1 kill mentality back then too. Where i before used 300-500 rounds a day, i now spend between 10-20 first strikes. So basically for me i cut down paint cost by ½

you shoot 3 cases a month with 5 on 1 ratio?! bloody hell that's like 1200 eliminations in a month, im not sure i do that in a whole year. i really really want to play at your field if your that many players

[snpr13]

I just wanted to know why no one does. I have yet to hear a reason that no one does that I can't see a way around. I know everyone has there opinions and it's like a preference to Chevy or Ford. I just like having the discussions. It's something to bide my time. I like learning why. And my intentions are in no way to cause controversy. I actually would love to find a reason that would justify switching to a n FS capable marker I just need an actual reason and by trying to go against what reasons you give I hope someone will give me that justification. I get that they are accurate and shoot far but me putting a few hundred into my a5 I currently run I can about keep up and I still have cheaper paint so maintence costs are down (yes paint is maintnence to me). Heres a question. Are tiberius arms able to run balls or just fs rounds?

Mind you when I say 5 to 1 that's dedicated play. I go through a bout a case a month just screwing around with buddies in the backyard and 3 cases is an average. I play large weekend scenario games where I go through more. Last month i went through two cases the month before only about 1. This being the second ive already gone through half a case. When i was playing a a lot last i was playing 3 or 4 days out of the week. Also ive only been back playing for 2 months so these figures are from when i used to play. It probably wont get back to that because im in a realtionship and have a child on the way. i used to skip school to play and had close to $5000 invested in gmarkers and gear

[joshsmithers]

Welcome to the forum, snpr.

Nov 2, 2012 14:00:16 GMT -5 snpr13 said:

I actually would love to find a reason that would justify switching to a n FS capable marker I just need an actual reason and by trying to go against what reasons you give I hope someone will give me that justification. I get that they are accurate and shoot far

Looks like you answered your own question. You may or may not save money by switching to FS only. However, if you become consistently accurate at ranges unattainable by .68s, then the paintball field becomes your b****. You will notice it and your teammates will notice it. And the way you play paintball will never be the same.

Nov 2, 2012 14:00:16 GMT -5 snpr13 said:

Are tiberius arms able to run balls or just fs rounds?

They can run both. EDIT: T9/T9.1s even come with a hopper adapter.

[snpr13]

The farther and more accurate alone cannot justify the expenditure alone. The fact that they can shoot both may be enough. I am not just trying to justify the cost to mySelf i have to justify it to my fiancee. Its my money but i cant just blow it wily nilly

[Allu]

Yes the tiberius arms run round balls to, tho I'd stay away from the high grade brittle tournament paint, its about as nice to the paint as a tipman 98c, mind you tho the riffled barrels might not be the best choice for round paint, but if one runs a smooth bore, like the one that comes with the ranger if I'm not mistaken.

There is the alternative to smack on a hopper and run remote air or onboard air for just fooling around, and then for those times you want to snipe you just use the mags.

I guess it's all up to what you need the marker to do.
If one plays a ambush/ sneaky style in acordance to, and I'm freely paraphrasing; Don't brag about the long shot, brag about how close you got!
one might never need the long range capabilities.

As I do agree that one of the best ways to practice field craft is indeed to get as close as possible, I still like to have the capacity for those long shots.

Or as someone so aptly put it, and I'm paraphrasing again;
My grandfather once said, son do not fire before you can see the bucks eye.
The next day I got my first scope.

And further more on the topic of tippmans, I'd like to quote Murphys law of combat:
"If it's stupid, and it works, It's not stupid."
Now what I mean with that is, as already said, whatever works for you is the way to go.

As for the reason I don't use a tippman, I feel that they are like the AK-47 of paintball, with all that comes with it,
do understand me correctly now, I'm a huge fan of the AK-47, the Finnish defense forces use a own version of it, and it would be my goto gun in most battle situations, reliable, sturdy, relatively heavy projectile and so on,
but with that said, for those longer shots I'd rather take a .338 or .50 from a more specialized platform.

My solution for this is a SP-1 (the father for G-1 for those who don't remember the smart parts days) with a pinokio for slinging paint, and for those sniper days i use my T9.1.

And now those bastards at DYE throw out the DAM, witch essentially would cover both my marker needs except for the riffled barrel, if the consistency is dead on, however for 1300, I just cant afford it at the moment.

And then we have players that goes all the way for the long shot with highly specialized platforms where the sky is the limit costvise.

So in the end, I'v had great days with t-98c:s and icon-x:es but as I was given the opportunity to prioritize otherwise I chose to start using markers that I'm more comfortable with.

[Allu]

Oh and yes I understand the economical dilemma, I'v had to defend my paintball hobby from the beginning, 8 or 9 years ago...
I guess in the end one has to look at how much time one spends on paintball, and how much it gives you and relate it to how much it is allowed to cost and how much a increased cost would improve the experience.

[snpr13]

I'll have to look more into these when I get the income. I still love my tipsy though and always will

[Allu]

My cousin has his 98c hanging on the wall beside the TV

[snpr13]

I have peices of my sl68 2 in a clear table I use for my firearm work bench lol

[avengingangel]

I have answer. Cause Tippman's aren't as cool as TiBerius or Chicago's and Trinity's SR1s. Sorry, someone just had to tell him!