Finally tried the new milsig silencer

[chicago]

You know me, I've tried many silencers. I'd become a tried and true FLASC supporter and lover of their supressors. Quiet! Super quiet compared to anything else I've ever tried.

Well, that used to be true. A while ago on the Tiberius forum, I saw a vid and was impressed with how silent the marker the guy was using. So, I thought the video was GioDude's and asked him (it looked like the old lapco silencer but I couldn't believe how quiet it seemed).

Never heard back, so I bought another lapco silencer. Pretty loud, though maybe I was dreaming. Asked again in the Tib forum. Gio apologized and said the guy in the video said it was a Milsig. He knew the old ones came with felt inside, the new ones he had no idea.

So, I tried to buy one! No dice, rockstar was out of stock. They frinally came in and I bought one like around $38, half the price of the FLASC; but, you know me, I had to test it!

Got a chance yesterday. I'm sorry, I jumped aheadof mywelf. I tried to mount it on the 8 inch riffled 0.683 lapco in my dark knight, the new mp7. It won't thread, so I figured since it came from Canada it was metric. Contacted FLASC and bought two more adapters. Mounted the Milsig on one end of the FLASC adapter and the other end on the rifled lapco. A match made in heaven. But, I was concerned the new Milsig also came with felt, but it waqsn't uniform in side, you could see a bump.

From previous experience, I knew that would seriosly impact accurarcy and possibly even break a first strike or two. So, I threw a 3 inch FLASC barrel extender (an old double ported extension) inside the Milsig over the felt and viola. The felt seemed bump "smoothed" out! And since its the same metric threading as the Milsig everyone was a happy camper. And the lapco still had the adapter tip.

I'll have pix another time (Did I mention the barrel fits the "tilt" at the front of the Mp7 because of the adapter and I got the silencer in flat dark earth (FDE) to go with the rest of my dark knight). So, yesterday, I tried it (only one mag)! OMG it is just as silent if not more than the Flasc. Enough for now, I'll need someone like voodooaddict to come over and listen to both types of silencers to be sure (a blind taste test!)

[chicago]

Here are the pix I promised. (And, voodooaddict may come by next week so we can have an independent ear for the sound check). I'm not happy with my sound meter and it takes at least three hands anyway, to fire and capture the dbs (decibels, yes I bought a cheap meter just to measure the silencers). Anyway, here's the good stuff:

first, you see the silencer fitting without modifying the front of the MP7. That's because the FLASC adapter keeps it away from the shroud:


second, you see the dark felt inside the porting holes of the Milsig silencer. If it wasn't you'd be able to see thru those holes like so many other ported tips and silencers:


third, just a full on side view, cause it looks so damn good and is now finally finished. Yes, it's sitting on top of the RONI project. I used it to get the MP7 positioned just right for the pix:


Fourth a shot of the FLASC adapter. Tib/Lapcp riffled 0.683 inside (why 0.683 instead of a hammerhead 0.688? Money, I have two 8 inch special riffled lapcos so I'm not spending more money on another hammerhead - money pure and simple:


Fifth, inside view of the Milsig with felt (that black ring half was down is a FLASC double ported extension I used the smooth the felt and make it sit uniform in the Milsig silencer. FLASC and MilSig use the same thread. We are looking down the business end because those metal finger you see only go about half way down and they weren't holding in all the felt as I would like to see:


Just another slightly different angle if you are interested. Same business end:

[chicago]

So, I needed the right coffee mug to go with it!

[Allu]

Nice, nice and nice

[chicago]

Voodooaddict got here late as ususal so we didn't set-up and extensive tests or side by side compressions. Just a couple first strike mags.

He agrees, its the quietiest thing he ever heard. He said it is probably quieter than his FLASC's (which I introduced hime to) but his FLASCs are quite enough. He said he's gotten behnd three enemy only 10 yards way and shot all three without the others knowing he was behind them. That's how quiet the FLASCs are!

I may switch barrel between the dark knight and the white knight so the hammerhead is connected to this awesome silencer!

[wingbatwu]

Apr 28, 2013 15:51:09 GMT -5 chicago said:

money pure and simple

Speaking of which, I toyed around with a few items I already had... came up with this, a bigshot / hushshot under a lapco MG shroud.

Dont think it will do much, but who knows. Field test tomorrow.

[Allu]

Add foam and voilà

[chicago]

really cool. Don't forget to tell us about the field test!

And, I kinda agree with ALLu, I'd wrap felt around the inside hush and then stick the shroud on!

[wingbatwu]

inside the hush?

[chicago]

no, between the hush and the outside housing with the big holes. Should work great!

[wingbatwu]

dont have any felt but i was able to squeeze a piece of an old black cotton sock, loop side in.

[Allu]

Should do the trick, the rest is just optimization

[chicago]

Warning" use a clean sock! Else even if the opponent can't hear you; he will smell you!

[wingbatwu]

I always hunt facing the wind

[Allu]

XD

[svenskpojke]

dang it feeling stoopid here! ive reread this like 10times... lapco->flasc adapter-> and this is where im lost does it go to 3 " flasc extension that screws halfway inside the milsig at the metalfingers? or does the milsig screws on the flasc adapter? what holds the 3"extension?
I have 3"doubleported extensions, 3" sqb extensions, flasc adapter for hh -> flasc only need the milsig anything more?

[chicago]

;DIf you were only using a Flasc barrel with the MILSIG silencer, you would need nothing else. The two are compatible as is the Flasc Extensions. The only time you need a flasc adapter is when you want to connect this to a Hammerhead, Lapco, or Tiberius barrel! US and Canadain threading are different. FLASC (frozen lakes and streams company) and MilSIG are canadian and their metric threads are NOT compatible. Tiberius, Hammerhead, and LAPCO are US companies and therefore US (imperial)
thread which are NOT compatible with metric threads!

Sorry, probably wasn't explained well. So once you've reread the above 3 times; let's read the rest:


I love hammerhead riffled barrels with my strikes (or regualr paint; but I only shoot first strikes. I used to use FLASC Suppressor with a double ported extension inside. so, I needed a FLASC adapter to inteface the metric threads of the FLASC extender to the tip of my Hammerhead.


Now to present time, so, I finally tried a MILSIG silence cause I saw a "you tube" of the milsig and it really, really seemed quiet and came in flat dark earth. And, because of that I would have needed the Flasc adapter to connect the MilSig to the Hammerhead.

The Milsig silenceR came packed with black felt inside; but, the felt seemed a little unruly (I could see little "bumps." So, to eliminat the bumps that might impact accuracy, I stuck a three inch double ported flasc tension inside the the Milsig to smooth out any "bumps" I perceived. This means that once a round gets out of the riffled barrel is sees a larger smooth bore (with no "bumps" and the projectile ports its shock wave through the double porting of the flasc extension and then into the felt which then passes the muffled sound onto the Milsig silencer.

I then use the flasc adapter to interface the Flasc extension threads to the Hammerhead, while the flasc double ported is happy as a clam interface directly to the milsig's metric threads.



Hope that was better. Keep asking questions if it is still not clear cause I'll keep explaining (the best I can). This post doesn't just benefit you but any one who owns these parts. And yes, it is super super quiet! So much so I've abandoned the Flasc suppressors and purchased more Milsigs. But, I'm running out of extensions and I don't think FLASC makes the old double ported extension I had! So hold onto that double ported. The price will probably go up

[svenskpojke]

im born in a metric country its the " foots and yards thats crazy ;P the 3" extension you have in the pics is it just for smoothing the bump in the felt? and not in there when you shoot? if its like this then im ok

[svenskpojke]

ive already orderd one from milsig ill figure it out

[chicago]

Also check out Wingbats idea. I think he's got a good one. We just need to hear about his results. Oh, and here is the best pix I have (a pix is worth a thousand words):





Outer ring you see the largest circular thingy in FDE is Milsig silencer. Inside the silence is are long black lines. that's the Milsig felt. Toward the back is the FLASC double ported extension starting as another circle where the dark felt lines end. (And, behind that is the flasc adapter - not visible in the pix).