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Post by sterling500 on Apr 15, 2013 19:00:53 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out how/if I can squeeze an optimizer onto my dam, and then use 45 deg offset mounts to attach a red dot or scope to the optimizer. Any chance someone could snap some photos of their optimizer for me?
Ideally I'd like a side view with a tape measure (or some other point of reference) in the shot. Maybe one with the optimizer at "zero" and one at "max range"?
Wrapped up in that is my other burning question...how many degrees does an HHA optimizer move?
Thanks a ton in advance...those things are expensive and I'm not sure they will even fit.
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Post by chicago on Apr 16, 2013 10:18:45 GMT -5
Remember, the optimizer is accurate to within in one yard. If you title it to a 45 degree angle, you will need to do some triganometry every time you go to fire.
I'll try to get some measurement andhave them up for you by this evening unless someone else does it first!
Personally, I'd mount it on the top picatinny rail and use the 45 degree side rails for what's ever on top now!
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Post by Allu on Apr 16, 2013 11:58:36 GMT -5
I agree with chicago on: If possible offset the other thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't offsetting the scope result in a solution where you theoretically just have a true zero on one range?  And then even tho you adjust the the path of the projectile and the sight line never cross except for in one place. One solution would then ofc be to cant the marker so that the scope is directly above the barrel. A important question is if this would make the setup unusable or if the wrong windage would be within tolerable differences so that you would simply hit slightly on one side at closer ranges and slightly on the other side on longer ranges. Hope it made some sense and as I said, correct me if I'm wrong, this is just as I reason on this matter. |
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Post by lordkyleofearth on Apr 16, 2013 12:11:30 GMT -5
Given that a side mount will only offset things by a matter of inches and that the distances in question are significant (50-100 yards), I would hazard a guess that no appreciable difference in aiming will result (versus a top mount).
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Post by sterling500 on Apr 16, 2013 12:33:58 GMT -5
Yeah sorry if I want really clear there... Hha would be mounted conventionally scope would have to hang off to the side... Even then it would be tight.
If I zero at something like 60 yards the offset of impact at point blank and 120 yards would be exactly equal to that of the 45deg hanger...that is small enough to not bother me.
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Post by chicago on Apr 16, 2013 13:48:48 GMT -5
You asked for some pix. Here they are. Next I'm head downstairs to get my caliper out for some measurement! Glint of white in bottom white is the wheel on the optimizer:  white, bottom left 9that pictanny you see in the bottom was to balance the setup and is not part of the optimizer):  This time, you find waldo:  more:  Got the idea now. |
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Post by sterling500 on Apr 16, 2013 13:53:33 GMT -5
You rock. Thank you.
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Post by chicago on Apr 16, 2013 14:36:44 GMT -5
ok, I got some dimensions for you.
There is the picatinny rail on the marker (or a riser) that will be point A.
There is a picatinny rail that the scope mounts (part of the optimizer) that will be point B
With the optimizer turned all the way up (farthest distance), it measured 1.25 mm from the bottom of the B to the bottom of A (the lower part of the rail - the bottom of the rail) and 0.8 mm to the top of that rail (peek of the rail). This measurement was taken at the very tip of the optimizer (because, this is the lowest "pivot" point. When the optimizer is turned back it (zeroed) it flatens out and stays parrell to the bottom riser (like an adjustable riser, it adds no elevation when zeroed). Hope that helps!
oh, I measure roughly a third of an inch between the two parrell plans (picatinnies) when zero if that needed as well.
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Post by chicago on Apr 16, 2013 14:50:11 GMT -5
Sorry, mentally this is not been one of my great days. I just realized, may be you were just asking for length, width, and height. What a dummy. My computer is two fleets of stairs away from the optimizer so you'll forgive me if I just get you those dimensions later!
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Post by sterling500 on Apr 16, 2013 15:00:09 GMT -5
I think that's what I was after... I'll post a sketch tonight as a double check. Trying to see if it will squeeze under a hopper.
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Post by savage on Apr 16, 2013 17:06:21 GMT -5
Ah...i see where your going with this now. Well...you could always add an apdapter between the hopper and gun increasing the space but it will leave you with an even bigger profile.
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Post by chicago on Apr 17, 2013 11:43:25 GMT -5
Check out JJ's current pix in the "Adjustable scope mount/riser" thread for more measurements!
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