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Post by archorn on Feb 14, 2013 15:57:35 GMT -5
mercenary you get around 100 yards with 300fps when the optimizer is at max and the apr is at a 1,5 degree tilt (about 3 clicks on the tiberius) and the zero is at 20
when the zero is at 50 (like casper has his) you only need 1 degree tilt (2 clicks for tib) and max at optimizer to get around 100 yards
These results are not exact but it seems to be close (close enough to save a lot of paint trying to find out what gives what range so you can use more for actual training/playing)
I am in the process of making a table of what ranges you get at what tilts (one value for each click of the tib apr) with what fps (thinking either one for each 10 or 5 fps from 250 to 300) but that table might take a few days since i have some stuff to do at university
oh and casper if you zero the scope at 50 yards and at 0 clicks on the tib. the max range should be about 156 yards (ie when the optimizer and tib apr is at max) and if you zero for 50 at 1 click as you had last time the max range should be around 154 yards
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Post by chicago on Feb 14, 2013 19:34:19 GMT -5
And we know from what's his name work (UVHALO), that the max effective range of a First Strike is like 178 yards (so, you are pretty well max'ed out for a T9.1 or any marker for that matter).
I had too much wine for diner or not enough, it depends on your point of view! [Girls, who wants to give Chicago a spounge bath?]
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Post by mercenary on Feb 15, 2013 7:20:31 GMT -5
thanks a lot!
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Post by archorn on Feb 22, 2013 14:34:42 GMT -5
Have a preliminary table here. Based on the strips for the optimizer but it isn't exact (especially since i'm not 100% i used the correct strips as a base) (should still be useful as a loose guide though) Attachments:
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Post by DJmatt123 on Feb 27, 2013 0:35:33 GMT -5
You can download a free program from Hawke that will help you with your calculations. Use the BC value of .0162 (per UVHalo) and you can play around with velocity, wind, zero range, ect. www.hawkeoptics.com/brc.html#.US2X1_KbWX0It looks like with the XB1 if I zero at 40 yards, I can use the line above the top crosshair for 30 yards and the ones below at 47, 54, 62, 69, 76, 82, 89, and 95 with a velocity of 280 fps with the scope set at it's lowest setting of 1.5x. That will make it easy to zoom in when I want to get a better look and set it back to 1.5x for shooting. I didn't find any settings with the first strike ballistics that will allow the crosshairs to be in nice 10 yard increments like hawke makes it sound like it will be (unless you crank it up to about 350 fps). |
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Post by archorn on Feb 27, 2013 8:25:22 GMT -5
I have been using chairgun pro with that BC (though it was version 3 i used) and i used the hha strips as a guide to know what range you got at 1.5 degrees (what i roughly found the max tilt of the optimizer to be). I got version 4 a few days ago and started playing a little with it but can't seem to get it to work the same way, one especially annoying thing is that the moa (Minute of arc, supposed to be 1/60 degree) doesn't seem to match the optimizer and my previous "math"... need some time (and more ammo) to get this to make sense... if you guys want to try using the table i made (before i have time to look into this closer) go ahead and please tell me if it is way of.
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Post by lordkyleofearth on Sept 24, 2013 8:44:50 GMT -5
Have a preliminary table here. Based on the strips for the optimizer but it isn't exact (especially since i'm not 100% i used the correct strips as a base) (should still be useful as a loose guide though) Please correct me if I am mistaken, but doesn't this chart remove the exclusive need to use the HHR Optimizer/riser combo? Couldn't someone just make a all-in-one optics mount that offers a calibrated 0-12° adjustment? If you were to use 6" bar stock, with a hinge at one side and a thumb screw at the other, the full 12° would only require a 1.35” swing distance. The advantage would be that you'd only need to adjust a single component, so you wouldn't need a conversion chart for various distances (to cover the hha/apr combined angles) |
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Post by archorn on Sept 24, 2013 16:36:10 GMT -5
good sugestion.
can't see why not.
might actuallt try to make one myself when i have time and access to the right materials and tools.
Made that table for that combo since it is made of complete products and I happen own both of them
oh right. important to remember if you are going to build your own adjustable raiser is that it has to be high enough so that the barrel doesn't block the scopes line of sight when the riser is at max tilt
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Post by ruraldawgs on Oct 2, 2013 16:52:05 GMT -5
RE: sanding FSR tops...
Curious because I had some no-breaks last weekend, what grit sandpaper and how much should I sand of the top ?
i.e. should I hold the round straight and parallel and just sand it a tiny bit flat on the top ?
OR should I sand in a circular fashion to make a round diameter on the top of the round ?
I got smashed in our TPL league final last weekend and could have done better had I not bounced a couple shots. The "sniper" in a 5 man team, gets a 5 pt objective for a hit. I had at least 2 bounces at 40 yds or less and 1 hit longer.
TIA
Da R-Dawg
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Post by archorn on Oct 2, 2013 18:15:00 GMT -5
Is this the right thread?
Anyway I haven't sanded mine for a while but when I last did i used some fine grit sandpaper 1000-3000 (I used the kind you soak in water before use),
then i used circular motions so that the tip was smooth (sometimes i did a little too much so a few started leaking).
Another trick I remember reading about was that placing a gunmat or something similar (thin foam maybe) under the sandpaper works better than using a hard suface (allowing the sandpaper to change its shape a little thus working better for keeping the fs rounded).
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Post by ruraldawgs on Oct 2, 2013 18:23:14 GMT -5
It could be a stretch "FSR Optimization", getting the FSR to perform better... break on impact at 40 yds... ;-)
Thanks for the info, Ill try that.
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Post by archorn on Oct 3, 2013 3:24:43 GMT -5
Glad i could be of some help. Just remember to not sand too much.
In this case the thread originally was about the HHA Optimizer used with the Tiberius adjustable riser and first strikes. Not sure why it was named as it is though.
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