My T9.1 build out, need opinions

[ruraldawgs]

Seeking some advice/opinions before I buy:
Currently T9.1, tank-in-stock, APRv2, TruGlo xbow scope, Lapco/Tib 14 inch 683 rifled barrel, magpul up front

1. RocStock - I like the idea of getting in better alignment (Trinity swears by them on his blog) however its a pricy piece. Tib tri-rail riser with APRv2 might be as good... Whats best for long term comfort that people have experienced ? Elevating or the RocStock ? (I already have an APRv2)

2. BiPod, what are people using ? Pros/cons of your model... do they get in the way allot ?

3. mount my tank under stock or on a tri rail, or even on custom side RocStock somehow - I have the BT ASA like Chicago and if I move my tank-in-stock (buy a RocStock), I am in contemplation about balance of the marker. I would think under frnt shroud would be good but then I have a interference issue with a bi-pod. Up on tri-rail might make balance an issue, custom attached to outside of RocStock might be best for balance and out of the way ?

BTW, just got my FSR barrel yesterday, what a big difference, no breakage, 1 round right on top of the other... incredible. I cant wait to dial it in for 30, 50, 60 this weekend and play a scenario with it.

TIA

[chicago]

I like Trinity swear by the Killjoy Rock stock; but, I suggest waiting and just using the riser for a while. You'll probably notice it isn't natural or comfortable. At that time, order the RocStock! cause you are right, they ain't that cheap.

[ruraldawgs]

I forgot to include suppressor question...

4. will the Flasc or HH (I like the HH better) fit on the Lapco/Tib 683 FSR barrell stock ?
The wordsmithing at the vendor sites is a little corn-fusing to me.

[chicago]

The flasc has it's own threading but you can buy an adapter from FLASC for around $15 US.


However, the HH will fit the lapco or the tib. But beyond the HH M50 what HH surpressor are we talking about. I only ask cause its no more quiet the fake tiberious or the fake lapco. I've tried every but the lapco hush and I'll be getting one of those, the end of next week. bTW, Trinity likes the FLASC suppressor as well!

[ruraldawgs]

The M50 is what I was looking at. Your saying its no more effective then the Tib Fake ?

Let me know about the Hush when you try it out.

[Allu]

Don't know if modifying is a legal option for you, but if I remember correctly, the flask would be my goto starting piece for a homemade suppressor, uneven drilling of holes seem to affect trajectory.

Otherwise i hear good things of the hush shot, no own experience tho.

As to dropping the raiser for Rockstock and direct mount of scope, it would give you a slightly lower profile
but as they said price/usefulness is it worth it, I believe you are the only one able to answer that for you.

Regarding the air mounting options, (this is only theorizing as i don't have anything smaller than the Tiberius tank in stock tank) I believe it to heavy to mount anywhere other than center line, then again it's personal preference, its not like you cant play with it, its just one of those small things that works on a personal level. Chicago has experience with the smaller tanks offset mounted, and he says it doesn't bother him on his setup, and he has a bad shoulder.

Another thing to consider on the air front would be the total shot capacity of a smaller tank, this is something I believe goes hand in hand with the adjustable raiser in relation to playing style.
Here's how I see it, extreme long range sniping and a not as high paced style might suggest, smaller tank, adjustable raiser, fever more well aimed shots. While a more high paced play style, (covering team, flanking...) where you typically engage targets at shorter ranges or when you have opponents popping up surprisingly might suggest a larger tank and no apr to fiddle with.

But that's just my 2c. good luck, don't know about the M50, but I belive that its in the same league as the fake, as in not quiet. Someone with experience please confirm or correct me.

[ruraldawgs]

Sticking with the 13 ci tank.
Mode of play will (hopefully) be sniper intended.

Wrestling today with the tri-rail raiser. The APRv2 has the same problem with the T9.0 rail. Basically I think the APRv2 has a design flaw if it doesn't fit on its target audience markers. The tri-rail raiser wont fit it without cutting into it with a file... Im going to the hardware store to see if I can fit a size smaller allen head screw to the APRv2. obviously Ill have to put a nut on the other side.

UPDATE: 6x32 stainless screws work just fine. Stock is 8x32. APR and scope seem to NOT be offset at all in any direction from using smaller screws and nuts on end. Ill post pics soon and run as suggested for a while. Going out Sunday for some renegade ball. Will bring a tape to measure off some yardage.

[DJmatt123]

Another advantage to using the rocstock is that it will lighten up the marker quite a bit. The rocstock itself I believe is lighter than the stock stock and you will also loose the weight of the risers.

I have the M50 but haven't been able to compare it to a flasc. It's also hard to tell since it is supposed to direct the sound back toward yourself so the shooter doesn't notice any drop in sound, it might even sound a little louder but the target downrange, in theory, will hear a reduced sound.

[chicago]

I've gone down range and I've had others go down range while I shot both the FLASC and the M50. All you hear with the FLASC is the crack from the first strike when it hits its target.

First time we ever tried it, my two sons, who love paintball couldn't stop laughing, it was one of those rare moments. I had my son go down stream about 100 feet (not that far reallly). He couldn't stop laughing, so I switch positions with him. Same result, I couldn't stop laughing. We knew we had discovered something really great. A giant leap in paintball stealth!

A year later, I picked up the M50 the try, it was cheap than the Flasc and looked cool and was from Hammerhead who made great barrels. With the M50, although a little quieter than a standard tip or no tip at all, you hear a paintball fired, a delay for flight, and then, the crack as it hits. In fact, although I knew where it was being fired from in the tests. I think I could have done so on a field because of the noise it made.

[Allu]

There we go, I stand corrected, as the tiberius fake more or less does nothing for sound suppression, it might even make it a bit louder.

[jjron99]

I've been using the Lapco Hush shot since it first came out. It is just a barrel front bored to .695 with four rows of porting. I've shot FS rounds with and without the hush shot using a HH as a control bore and saw no accuracy degradation. But I did not see observable improvement either. Sound signature was the same as if you were using a two piece barrel with a heavily ported front. The quality of the hush is amazing and it gives my barrel a “fluted” look. I’ve used the hush shot front and HH combination in all my First Strike Sniping youtube videos and I’m quite impressed.

[chicago]

Damn it, your review came too late for me. I purchased a lapco hush last week so I could do a test on which one (the flasc or the hush) was quieiter.

The "hush" should be here like Tuesday. Good to hear they don't effect accuracy. I'll give it to one of my sons. Or, what I might do is use a Lapco 8 inch riffled or a hammerhead 8 inch riffled, use that as an extensiion and then use the Flasc suppressor on the end of that.

I love to try differrent things and experiment! May be even slip it on the end of my MP7 - probably look like ****. But, if it is addes accuracy...

[Allu]

Slightly bigger pipe on top, fill with plastic wool of some kind, duct tape front and u have a nice silencer.

[ruraldawgs]

So I ended up putting some 1" mini risers I had laying around under the APR. Removed the tri-rail. Put the stock screws back in the APR.

Pretty nice mount overall, gives me height and is light weight.

Went out to zero in scope... JEEZE, I am amazed at how accurate this machine is. Especially up and down.
The FSR barrel and HPA is such a remarkable difference from the CO2, and Lapco T9 barrel setup I had on the T9.0.
I was stacking them at 20 yds 1 on top of the other. Tomorrow Ill move out to the 30 and 40 yd reticules., Then Ill be out of paint. I had 1 break in the barrel, I assume its because its new and the detents might be a little tight still. Ill drop some oil on them tomorrow.

Had a malfunction with the tac rail loosing up. Have a post up at TA to see what Justin says. I hate to red loctite the 3 screws down but it might be the best deal to keep it from loosing up. I dont think it affects any future tear down for maintenance.

[jjron99]

Chicago, I encourage you to still do a review. With your results, my experience with the hush barrel can be validated or you may have a completely different experience (since you have a different setup). I'm also thinking about buying a flasc so your review would be helpful.