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Post by avengingangel on Oct 2, 2012 15:36:04 GMT -5
Wow, too bad, I was hoping to see how you pimped it out!
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Post by casper on Oct 3, 2012 10:35:50 GMT -5
I bought a HH 688 fin (AC threaded) on mcb a little over a week ago paid for faster shipping still haven't got it.The machine shop is looking forward to modding it for the sr1 so I can attach the HH barrel.Also have an old style angel threaded HH I am shipping to Bill so he can mod it to try this rifled barrel thing out.I got it for 15 bucks shipped on ebay.Which leads me to the conclusion that ebay is the way to go looking for HH barrels.You will not see many HH tiberius barrels but the deals on regular ones are great.The one i am modding I got for 40 shipped.Yes it came with a tippman back but it came with a tip and getting a new back(fin) cost 24 bucks from HH!!So I have a 64 $$ barrel that new would have cost me over 100.Win for casper!!!
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Post by Allu on Oct 3, 2012 10:54:07 GMT -5
GZ, keep modding.
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Post by chicago on Oct 3, 2012 10:58:26 GMT -5
Well, I'm back in the CCM corner again, at least for the next week or two. Got the breech separated from the 8 inch barrel. Immediately threaded a standard cocker into it. It went in fine but it is too long. Just as Bill said it would be (I was never disputing that) but, the standard cocker does not have a small inner lip. That is the real problem as I see. I've rescheduled a meeting for this saturday with my guy to take a look (sorry, won't give a time, snipers you know).
May be what we will do is make an adapter instead. Modified cocker on one end to match Bill's Breech and immediately after that (on the business end) a regular cocker collar. That way anyone with a cocker threaded barrel can use it. Kinda like what FLASC did so we could use their tips and fake suppressor. I hope to have a preliminary answer next week followed by a prototype and testing. Something could be available as early as November (as long as I don't use the wrong anodizer!
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Post by chicago on Oct 6, 2012 13:11:39 GMT -5
Met with machinist this morning. Now, I'm in stealth mode - don't worry Trinity or Bill, no mods or cuts to your stuff. As soon as I fabricate this little thing, I'll send it to Trinity. Would prefer to test it here first (along with one of our cocker barrels); but since the rest of the receivers are in California, I won't be able to test it here first. I really don't like doing that. However, I may have a source for an SR1. Let you know more next week! This is so exciting if it works! Anyone will be able to use any cocker threaded barrel (riffled or not) on an SR1.
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Post by chicago on Oct 8, 2012 12:03:38 GMT -5
In my previous post over the weekend I should have added, "with no mods to the SR1 or to the cocker threaded barrel!" How? That we aren't saying yet. Not wanting to over sell this but it is so simple it should work! As soon as I get the SR1 working with the normally supplied barrel, I'll try this simple solution with a real cocker. Then, I'll send on to Trinity to try too.
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Post by chicago on Oct 8, 2012 12:04:37 GMT -5
In my previous post over the last weekend I should have added, "with no mods to the SR1 or to the cocker threaded barrel!" How? That we aren't saying yet. Not wanting to over sell this but it is so simple it should work! As soon as I get the SR1 working with the normally supplied barrel, I'll try this simple solution with a real cocker barrel. Then, I'll send on to Trinity to try too.
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Post by avengingangel on Oct 9, 2012 8:34:35 GMT -5
You realize you repeated yourself. Maybe you need to adjust your meds?
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Post by trinity on Oct 9, 2012 12:52:50 GMT -5
I am curious to see what you have come up with. Avenging Angel is right. Have the head nurse take a quick peak at your chart. Someone has doubled up on those meds.
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Post by chicago on Oct 14, 2012 12:11:19 GMT -5
I'm going crazy. I can't play its been raining the past two days and on top of it the SR1 won't arrive til Monday or Tuesday! Don't laugh, I've already got the sight, the optimizer, and the range finder prepped and mounted on my newer Killjoy APR version II. All I have to do is mount the whole thing on the SR1!
I've got to be honest, I'm disappointed in the new Killjoy. I like the old one. I thought the new one had a one screw adjust (but, it doesn't adjust anything - on mine it just tightens the "shaky non- precise hand selected rise!") I would not recommend this. Sorry Killjoy your other products have gotten glowing reviews from me; but, my opinion, this riser adds more question on our ability to select the correct rise!
This APR adjustment is not exactly what I'd try in field on the fly. But, I intend on using it just flat most of the time and then some day when I get daring and have the time, I'd put it fully raised and check out a new distance chart using my optimizer. In other words, my optimize will take me out to roughly 80 yards. When I fully raise the APR, I'll measure how far the first strike goes. I do the same again only lowering my optimizer to 20 yards and measuring again. this way I can "map 80 yard to may be roughly 160 meters and 20 yards to roughly 100 meters!
Then if my range finder tells me my target is more than 75 yards away, I'll use the Killjoy apr as intended and then some! But, I'll have a more approx targeting for really long distances! And, yes half of 20/80 is fifty yards so I'll know when my "raised apr shot" will go (maybe 150 meters!). No longer just one shot; but I could "march a really long shot in (either up or down depending on where the first shot lands).
"I'm not saying it will be a one shot, one tang down; but they'll have no idea where its coming from (cause of course, there will be my other trusty FLASC suppressor mounted on the awesome instrument - I've removed it from my MP7, Silent Knight is not happy; but she'll get over it.). That truly excites me.
I'm looking forward to an almost completely silent, long range, extremely accurate sniper rifle for the right occasions. I'll, of course, be reporting every joy and every disappointment as I proceed. So, stay tuned!
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Post by casper on Oct 14, 2012 21:37:49 GMT -5
I noticed the same thing with the apr.I thought it would be a click thing not a line thing and I keep thinking if I fiddle with it the screw will fall out.So i put a red dot on and mounted it on my 9.1 sighted it in for fsr at 50 yds with a HH barrel and at 70 ft for pb's made the line for them so it's an easy switch.Just tighten down the set screw.The tiberius fsr while shakey which I took care of give's you the knowledge of I went 4 clicks ect. It's commin Chicago!!!
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Post by chicago on Oct 16, 2012 10:37:35 GMT -5
I wanted to share this link. Yes, because I'm lazy. There are so many chokes. Which one has a chance of fitting of 0.686 or 0.687 rifled barrel paintball barrel. I'd love to try one (even on the smooth bore CCM barrels for the SR1). Someone who understands gauge versus mils, please translate or tell me how! www.dvor.com/choke-tubes-73-2012-10-16.html
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Post by Allu on Oct 16, 2012 16:48:38 GMT -5
The link only takes me to the main page so I'm not sure I'm getting the full picture, but ill try to answer as best I can. From wikipedia. "Gauge is determined from the weight of a solid sphere of lead that will fit the bore of the firearm, and is expressed as the multiplicative inverse of the sphere's weight as a fraction of a pound (e.g., a 1⁄12th pound ball fits a 12-gauge bore). Thus there are twelve 12-gauge balls per pound (etc.). The term is related to the measurement of cannon, which were also measured by the weight of their iron round shot; an 8 pounder would fire an 8 lb (3.6 kg) spherical cast iron ball and had a bore diameter of about 91 mm (3.6 in)."As for the dimensions A 12-gauge shotgun, nominally 18.5 mm (0.73 in), can range from a tight 18.3 mm (0.72 in) to an extreme overbore of 20.3 mm (0.80 in) Gauge (Bore) Diameter _______(mm)______(in) 13*___18.04______.710 14*___17.60______.693 15*___17.21______.677 Calculating based on 17,475 mm (0.688) would give a gauge of 14.29956. As for chokes, there are slight variations on them for different effects, this video explains it a bit Pics of some different types Also to give you an idea of the dimensions "The choke typically consists of a conical section that smoothly tapers from the bore diameter down to the choke diameter, followed by a cylindrical section of the choke diameter. Briley Manufacturing, a maker of interchangeable shotgun chokes, uses a conical portion about 3 times the bore diameter in length, so the shot is gradually squeezed down with minimal deformation. The cylindrical section is shorter, usually 0.6 to 0.75 inches (15 to 19 mm)."So theoretically one might be able to take a 14 gauge chokes (if you could find one) and somehow hone it out to 14,3 and machine the tip of the barrel to accept the choke threads. Or you if you have some contacts that could machine it from scratch, since there wouldn't be a plug and play fit anyways. Or you could try to do it as they did before the choke inserts when they made the barrel: by squeezing the end of the bore down over a mandrel.That might work with a threaded tip if you don't want to ruin the barrel. Or contact a manufacturer of custom chokes, or some barrel manufacturer for a custom choke tip. Oh and I have no idea what a ported barrel would do in this scenario. Some other thoughts on the same concept with some modifications, one could use a freak back with the appropriate insert going to a rifled barrel, (under bored if you ask me, and isn't that the idea of the choke). Then on the other hand the other hand wouldn't a under bored barrel do the same thing, yes there is the issue of different sized FS, but putting a choke on the end, while it is a shorter distance under bored, the difference between the different sized rounds is still there to cause inaccuracy? Actually that got me thinking: when it comes down to it, that might be why lapcos riffled is so under bored, the concept being that squeezing a round through a slight under bore and a big under bore induces less difference than squeezing it through a under bore and a no under bore, since the pressure is behind the round all the way when under boring, but without that it can escape past the round at different lengths down the barrel thus inducing inconsistency. I'm a bit tired so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by avengingangel on Oct 17, 2012 7:22:11 GMT -5
Wow, Allu, that was a lot of math. My head is spinning. and, now I'm all choked up!
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Post by chicago on Oct 17, 2012 9:23:33 GMT -5
Choke up on that bat soldier! Damn, avengingangel was on this morning and I missed her. Here's a really interesting video on the SR1:
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Post by chicago on Oct 18, 2012 6:03:06 GMT -5
I am so looking forward to shooting an SR1:
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Post by chicago on Oct 20, 2012 16:45:52 GMT -5
Finally got most of the furniture and hardware mounted. Lady and gentlemen, I bring you the SR1, working name, Casper the silent ghost! First pix a comparison to the deaf leopard. Great paint job Casper!Second is is the Leupold Vendetta range finder (works great): Third is Hawke X3 illuminated scope, ACD, and lower right the HHA compensator: fourth is full frontal nudity (i.e. the range finder and scope): Remainder are just different views in case people wonder on the vendetta is mounted. Here can see the wire hanging of that controls the vendetta. Won't mount it til I feel comfortable with the rest of the setup. Yes, that will not be my pipod but its what I used on my T9.1 ages ago. A new NcStar (13 to 25 inch) bipod still on the way. As well as a dark earth magpul vertical grip (fell in love with that on the T9.1) Next I need to align the vendette, adjust my FPS, zero the scope, set the tape on the HHA optimizer. Change to HPA, and report on this glorious beast: I have to admit, I put two first strike rounds thru. It's really quiet with the FLASC on the end of the 16 inch barrel!
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Post by Allu on Oct 20, 2012 17:08:38 GMT -5
I just don't know what to say.... WOW, AWESOME, splendid, cool, beautiful just don't begin to cover it... I am speechless....
Dr. Manhattan says it quite well at 0:50 in the clip
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Post by Wolfen on Oct 20, 2012 19:21:11 GMT -5
It's gorgeous! but no flashkill?!!! All those shiny lenses will make you pop out like a flashlight in the dark.
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Post by chicago on Oct 21, 2012 0:43:42 GMT -5
I work on the glint after I get the rest it tuned. There are many things I didn't mount yet like see thru polarized lens (like the ones on my deaf leopard) and what type of netting will work best with a rangefinder (including a flip to the side rangefinder front cover). I don't remember, I was so rushed today, but not all the important hardware is mounted yet.
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