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Post by casper on Aug 24, 2012 13:41:38 GMT -5
Keeping a little logg here on my 9.1 trials and errors.
Bought my 9.1 on ebay as a sniper package(came with the rifled lapco)
Was a god awful camo,and came with all the trimmings.I shot it right away and logged 2 fsrs in the barrel.
I ordered a hammerhead.I also offed all the parts I didn't need.Shroud barrel .extention,fake silencer,bipod.
Got me a grip pod which I like alot.
I put guns through pace's first to get used to them.The first was puting the barrel in for mag feed.I am never using the hopper adaptor but would still have it in the hopper feed setting while trying to shot mags.I took the cover off so I could verify it's right.
I dail everything in (velocity and scope do some work with the riser)I was getting chops.At this point I stated learning how to clear these and with fsr its a pain.Also having to take out the mag to get the barrel out was getting to me.Checked a few things that were pointed out to me by forum members.I think it was a detent issue.
Still doing it.Broke the gun apart cleanned and oiled.Lots of loose stuff I tightned up.Put air through it fine.Went to shoot this morning chopped fsrs like crazy,really ready to just get rid of the gun.Take a few breaths pull the barrel and the detent was backward clean up best I can start shooting no miss feeds no chops.Ran it with no detents.It seems to me that all that zeroing I did didn't work.The fs riser is pretty shaky.At 50 yds it would make a foot diffrence.So pulled it off and took it to the machine shop and will get some word on it soon.
I am going to keep up dating my learning curve going to open her up and clean.
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Post by chicago on Aug 24, 2012 13:49:43 GMT -5
how are you zeroing your scope and which one is it? Great idea posting a "learning curve" thread. I think a lot of people will learn from your posts. And, glad to see you are not self-conscious.
Finally, is it the Tiberius/Lapco or the Hammerhead you are experiencing the breaks with?
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Post by casper on Aug 24, 2012 16:21:22 GMT -5
hammer head barrel and using the tiberius scope zero it at 50 yds no clicks on the riser,really think it was some lose stuff and detents.
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Post by trinity on Aug 24, 2012 16:42:53 GMT -5
I agree with Chicago. This kind of thread is the best learning tool possible for other new users. Chicago's question goes to which barrel you are using and, while I am curious about the barrel too, my query is about the riser. Are you using a Tiberius FSR? I ask because the early ones had a lot of wobble in the rail. That was apparently fixed, at least it was in a later model I recently handled. You might haven't gotten one of the first batch. The new Tiberius rail is a vast improvement. It is lighter, shorter, and has markings for elevation. Of course it's still much heavier that Killjoy's APR 2.
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Post by casper on Aug 24, 2012 19:15:24 GMT -5
I am using the tiberius riser the shop is going to try to tighten it up.I will not be buying new stuff for a while saving for my sr1.
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Post by casper on Aug 25, 2012 10:14:08 GMT -5
Found a formula for range estimation with the Tiberius scope.Using a pro flex mask I paced off 50 yds and noted the size in mils.2 mills at 50 yds,1.5 at 60, 1.0 at 70, .5 at 80.pretty simple and easy.
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Post by chicago on Aug 25, 2012 11:21:54 GMT -5
Was thinking, if your riser still wobbles (and I won't suggest a Killjoy even though they are better). Try putting masking, or grip tape, or any type that will hold and put it on the picatinny before you mount it (Sticky foam(like used in sealing windows or doors or sticky Velcro might work best). And, if its cause you are "bottoming out" with the attach screws put a rubber o'ring on you screws and then tighten down.
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Post by casper on Aug 25, 2012 11:46:03 GMT -5
The wobble is the actual part that clicks not any of the mounting hardware.
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Post by trinity on Aug 25, 2012 13:49:49 GMT -5
The wobble is the actual part that clicks not any of the mounting hardware. Exactly. That's what was so frustrating about the wobble. At the time, Tiberius told me it was just inherent in the click design and couldn't be remedied. Apparently they did find a was to do that though because the later one's don't have that wobble. |
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Post by Wolfen on Aug 25, 2012 16:00:19 GMT -5
i solved the wobble problem with a few drops of chemical metal on the pins that keep the whole thing together. I also changed out all the heavy rails on it to ½ rails made in composite plastic to lighten the FSR (and i cut it down so that it basically looks like the new version now does.)
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Post by casper on Aug 25, 2012 16:45:39 GMT -5
I will report on the results. Initially they say poor machining and metal choice.
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Post by Allu on Aug 27, 2012 10:55:57 GMT -5
Speaking of the wobble, has anyone else experienced inconsistency when adjusting...More precisely, when adjusting from 0 clicks (raiser straight), I apparently get random results for the first 3 clicks. This "untightnes" also exist when clicking backwards.
Heres an example. Iclick down 3 clicks for ca45 m, the first 3 clicks ar apparently random, after this i get a consistant change on every click all the way down.
But if I somwhere, lets say 6 clicks down decide to go back up to 4 clicks, there is some kind of play in the adjustment so that 2 clicks back does not result in the desired range.
Hopefully i managed to explain it in a manner that you can understand.
On another note i don't seem to get any sideways wobble, (the windage stays the same).
So if anyone has managed to fix this problem, or dissasembled the raiser in a sucsesfull manner, I would greatly apriciate some info and/or toughts about it.
Wolfen your problem was with sidways action on the raiser right?
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Post by Wolfen on Aug 27, 2012 13:53:38 GMT -5
yes it was, and i've taken apart the raiser too (was something of a ***** to put together again though...). I've never ever experienced any type of variation in the up and down adjustments and after i fixed the wobbling my windage been spot on as well for every single shot. What can i say... IF i miss it's my fault and my fault alone, nothing to do with "Nemne"
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Post by casper on Sept 4, 2012 7:16:32 GMT -5
Inside of the riser was cleaned scrapped and pryed now it is tight.The shop couldnt really tell me was wrong.I will be slapping it back on and resume shooting.I did cut the useless front part off so it looks like the new one .Still is tighter but has a 1/2 ft wobble instead of a foot at 50 yds so dissapointed I am getting a killjoy.
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Post by joshsmithers on Sept 4, 2012 12:01:18 GMT -5
I like the log idea, casper. It seems like you and I are at the same point in our sniping experiences. I might have to do the same thing.
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Post by casper on Sept 4, 2012 13:13:59 GMT -5
I was really a guy who was intimiated by the internals and taking apart any tiberius.Now I do other peoples guns.Not hard lots of info on youtube haha!!I am putting a new mag release the index kind.They say I have burger hands ie I make anything look big in my hands haha!!They don't fit around the grip to release mags. Since the 9.1 will only be shot righthanded I figure what the heck.I also took all the co2 hardware out of the mags,never going to use them but will save them.Its all about what I am not going to use weight is weight.I was thinking with the mags if i ran out of air just use a 12gram.Thats not happening if your running a back bottle.(The mag air valve is plugged)
I am using my T-8 serial ##291 as a backup 1 clip in the gun one in a mag pouch.
Also when I was at ccm bill showed me a nice laser range finder could be a nice piece to have to get some ranges on buildings and spools and other pb field items.(from a static postion)Never really looked into it before but they arent that expensive.I will keep looking on ebay should find one under 100.Thoughts on the range finder??
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Post by joshsmithers on Sept 4, 2012 21:01:12 GMT -5
That's a good idea to remove the co2 quick change screw, I might do that too. They rattle around without the co2 and it annoys me.
I've been looking into rangefinders lately too, but I've been skeptical because I've never used one. It seems the good ones are all around $200+
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Post by chicago on Sept 5, 2012 9:19:29 GMT -5
Consider a crossbow range finder from Hawke Optics, I've been thing about one too. and they are very close to $100 US.
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Post by Allu on Sept 5, 2012 10:12:42 GMT -5
One thing to take into consideration.. will it work with your mask on, mine does... but I can barely see through the ocular, so I seldom use it. Ill have to check out the crossbow rangefinder you talked about chicago.
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Post by casper on Sept 7, 2012 17:35:40 GMT -5
Taking out all bolts on the sighting system going with true bolts and nuts.The rail has some soft bolts so I will redue all of them on the sighting system with stainless.
Got the new mag release what a diffrence.Got one for the t8 too.Did the mags with a file and they work great.
On a side note the mag holders I went with are the open top with elastic allot quieter then velcro.A cheap single point sling just in case we have to use the pistol.Finally a forearm band that holds all my data for range estimation clicks for the riser and some holds like 1 mill over at 75 yds .eventually it will become second nature.
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