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Post by chicago on Feb 23, 2012 12:34:54 GMT -5
Has any one got one yet? First, I could not order the tip I wanted, the m50. Now I can get it but I can't specify the length anymore!
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Post by chicago on Feb 25, 2012 9:44:13 GMT -5
It was like three times was the charm for me. I tried three times to purchase it.
I'm not ruling out hammerhead. I thought I'd finally own one and was looking forward to it. Went to their site 3 times but each time something was wrong (could not get M50 tip or could not specify lengthen) so I didn't order it.
Plus there was a conflicting information. Hammerhead said 10 and 14 inch lengthens. But then I saw an ad for them from rockstar. Went to their sight to buy instead cause of the free shipping! But, Rockstar listed them as 8.5 and 14 inch so I stopped there too. Guess it just wasn't meant to be...plus I was afraid to start a third expensive tip collection.
So, I'm waiting to see now what Lapco does. On their facebook page they finally announced their new big secret project/product, a T8.1 riffled version! They however, didn't mention the bore size. The bore size will say every thing to me. I have their 0.683 14 inch rifled and I'm not happy with the bore. I can't image co2 being used to spit out those FS through that tiny bore, very inefficient.
I don't get breaks in any barrel I own except the Tiberius/Lapco .683. So, I'm not going to shell out more cash for another ball breaker. I hope they will offer a more standard bore like their 0.686 product line. We'll see.
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Post by Wolfen on Feb 25, 2012 10:58:07 GMT -5
Over 400 FS rounds through the rifled lapco barrel and so far not a single barrel break and i've used 2 different ones on different markers. Chicago something is seriously wrong with yours if you get breaks...
I agree that using the rifled barrel with co2 might not be the best solution since you crank up the velocity abit, But you still get between 20-22 rounds before you run out so it's not that bad really.
As for a rifled barrel for the 8.1. Hmm im not sure it's really worth it since you rarely use a t8.1 for long range FS shooting anyway.
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Post by Puredrop on Mar 1, 2012 23:45:08 GMT -5
Ok guys here is the deal. I know the owner of hammerhead paintball personally. I will be receiving the T9.1 & T8.1 hammerhead barrels with a variety of tips tomorrow (3/2) verifyed by ups ground shipping. The hammerhead barrels will be a riffled with a .688 bore size. The benefit of these barrels is that they will engage the fins of the FS rounds causing it to spin in the barrel when fired to provide much greater accuracy for the FS rounds just like in the Tiberius/Lapco .683 riffled barrel but WITHOUT the drag on the FS round or the the plastic residue build up. For those of you that own the Tiberius/Lapco .683 riffled barrel you know exactly what I am talking about. The hammerhead tips I am receiving, which include their M-50 muzzle, are all reverse ported to help conceal and quite the shooters firing position. Needless to say I am excited to have the opportunity to properly test these new barrels for him in a controlled enviroment. I will let you guys know how the testing goes which will happen in the next coming week or so after I reveal my findings to the owner.
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Post by Wolfen on Mar 2, 2012 2:33:36 GMT -5
hmmm, if the rifling has .688 bore then it could be a problem since first strike rounds are .685-.686 meaning that the rifling may not work as they're supposed to. Depends on if they measured in from the top of the rifling or from inside the grooves. Still not having to clean the residue would be rather nice, not that it's really that much of a bother but still. I really like how many Rifled barrels are coming out for the tibbys.
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Post by skullcandy1993 on Mar 2, 2012 5:17:10 GMT -5
i wouldnt recommend this barrel for the time being, just because if you use it with the shroud it is too short.
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Post by chicago on Mar 3, 2012 14:41:13 GMT -5
People on the Tiberius forum are reporting receiving the hammerheads for the Tx.1s. Anyone here receive them yet? If you do, would you mind posting lengths (without tips)and pix if possible? Thanks.
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Post by chicago on Mar 5, 2012 19:27:50 GMT -5
So, according to what I read on Tiberius (Wolfspyda's post). Hammerhead's new 14" riffled barrel will be sent out with a two inch extension (presumably so they work now). Does anyone else wonder what a 2 inch (probably unriffled) extension - in lord knows what bore size will do to the consistency/accuracy of the new barrel (that people paid top dollar for)? I do. I'd prefer to wait and see them create a 14 inch barrel and make amends with their customers that way!
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Post by voodooaddict on Mar 6, 2012 4:44:12 GMT -5
As for a rifled barrel for the 8.1. Hmm im not sure it's really worth it since you rarely use a t8.1 for long range FS shooting anyway. Disagree with that. I take plenty of long range shots with FS in my 9.1/8.1 pistol setup. I don't get breaks in any barrel I own except the Tiberius/Lapco .683. Wonder if we should try to Teflon coat it like the old carbon fiber automag barrels. Maybe it would get less buildup then? So, according to what I read on Tiberius ( Wolfspyda's post). Hammerhead's new 14" riffled barrel will be sent out with a two inch extension (presumably so they work now). Does anyone else wonder what a 2 inch (probably unriffled) extension - in lord knows what bore size will do to the consistency/accuracy of the new barrel (that people paid top dollar for)? I do. I'd prefer to wait and see them create a 14 inch barrel and make amends with their customers that way! I very much agree... If they had purchased the faulty 14" barrels at a discount it would be one thing for this odd "solution". Wolfspyda confirmed that it would be a rifled extension as they don't do anything smooth bore except for the tips. This worries me, it's one thing to pass over seam from one set of rifling to another with a paintball... it's quite another to hope that the two sets of rifling line up exactly so there's no problem with the fins through the seam transition. Have they tested that this is a safe solution for first strikes to not cause busted fins in the barrel? I highly doubt it at this point. Why is it not simply that refunds are being offered for this foulup? I really wanted these on my dual first strike pistols with M50s... Really wanted to get some of the precision of the Lapco rifled .683 in pistol form without adding efficiency issues. |
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Post by Wolfen on Mar 6, 2012 9:29:30 GMT -5
I meant long range as in 70m +  , And ofcourse you CAN shoot at great distances with pistols too, most just don't. As for the HH barrel in general... i'd not even consider buying it after all the mess (seems to be alot of that going around lately... mag extensions, HH barrels....) Oh and i have to agree with voodooaddict, hoping to get the rifling to line up perfectly... not likely. |
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Post by chicago on Mar 8, 2012 9:25:31 GMT -5
I've seen the pictures now of the hammerheads (they are down right ugly in my opinion). However, I'm very excited to see that they are correcting their mistake and will actually come out with a real 14 inch barrel. It means I will still consider Hammerhead as an alternative to LAPCO and FLASC.
I've also seen the 8 inch Lapco's introduced at this year's paintball orgy. They are riffled too. Cool!
Just wanted to point out here what I've always said but no one believed me, that is, "Not not all lapco tips fit the Tiberius barrels...it's in their video and in the way they are selling the 8.1/9.1 barrels. You have to be careful and order the barrel you want to go with the tips you want." That's complicated enough for me! But also a vindication for me. All the LAPCO tips don't fit Tib barrels!
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Post by skullcandy1993 on Mar 8, 2012 22:19:55 GMT -5
but the threads are almost identical...why wouldnt they fit?
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Post by chicago on Mar 9, 2012 4:23:48 GMT -5
Sometimes it's the depth; sometimes its the amount or length of the thread. Sometimes 7-20 and 7-22 look so close and fit kinda fit but eventually start the bind the deeper you go. Works the same for metric vs english as well.
Hey skully, the posse says hi! They are always asking about you since their last trip up north. What happened up there?
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Post by chicago on Mar 10, 2012 17:51:07 GMT -5
I honestly went back to the Hammerhead site today (partly because they promised to make the 14 in right with their customers). So, I tried again, but, I could not figure out how long the 10 inch barrel really was. Because what I really want is a rifled barrel for my pistols and that M50 tip; but, they said and I'm quote their site, "the length includes the tip." So, I quickly went to the tips and tried to find out how long they were cause I could see on their sight that the M50 was 5 inches. But, I could not figure out if the other tips were the same and I searched and searched but I could not find out. I really really want to know the overall lenght (with the tip and without the tip so I can add 5 inches to it to know what it would be and look like with the M50). But, since I can't, I gave up again and did not order. I had seen a pix (I think on the tib forum) that showed it with one of the other tips - and to be honest, I did not like it). I'm a firm believer that form follows function and you all know I travel lite; all that said, I'm sure I would not want an ugly tip on the end of my pistols. Does anyone understand that?
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Post by chicago on Mar 12, 2012 11:50:58 GMT -5
Fixxxer has a nice picture which shows the size of the new hammerhead and the tip, including the M40! I was right the tips are different size. And, after seeing the hammerhead with the m40 on a pistol, its not as ugly as the earlier picture I remembered. Find Fixxxer on the Tiberius forum: forums.tiberiusarms.com/showthread.php?p=44178#post44178
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Post by skullcandy1993 on Mar 12, 2012 16:40:47 GMT -5
not bad, I'm not a fan of how the barrel gets thinner and then you get to the threads. The lapco barrels do it to and I dont like it
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Post by chicago on Mar 13, 2012 9:43:43 GMT -5
I agree 120% with you Skully. The connection between the barrel and the tip is as ugly as a Canadian baby!
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, And ofcourse you CAN shoot at great distances with pistols too, most just don't.